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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 21, 2024 9:01:06 GMT -5
7-6-47, as Murdock stated in FBII. This should be ironclad canon. What baffled me much more was the apparent lapse in the props department for LAST BLOOD, as his driver's licence suddenly gave his birthyear as 1950, which is wrong on all accounts. I asked Sly directly about that, when he was still visiting the SZ board, his brief answer was "Forged".  Since Murdock's file is super-canon, that's okay to me, the driver's license was wrong/forged. Is the driver's license VISIBLE on-screen, even? Or did you see the prop on E-Bay, and you can barely notice it in the movie? Yep, it's a blink and miss though. I caught it in the theatre and later freeze framed it from the Blu-ray. That one really bugged me, as how can the prop department screw up something like this? And not be spotted and corrected during editing? It is beyond me. Obviously Sly tried to come up with an explanation on the spot to preserve canon, hence his answer "Forged". |
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 21, 2024 9:08:01 GMT -5
There it is:  |
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 21, 2024 9:12:54 GMT -5
About LAST BLOOD: Did Rambo mention that 10 years have passed by since his return to the ranch? Especially to Gabriela? If that would be the case, then the movie is placed in 2017...? Don't remember exactly, if those 10 years have been mentioned specifically. Then again, even if so, he might have just rounded it down. Not necessarily to be taken literally. Unless otherwise mentioned, I always take the year the film was made as the actual time it takes place. For RAMBO II it's easy, as he mentions 1985 explicitly. For other films one can never be totally sure. |
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 21, 2024 11:48:11 GMT -5
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Post by Jay Rambo on Jul 21, 2024 12:35:29 GMT -5
That one really bugged me, as how can the prop department screw up something like this? And not be spotted and corrected during editing? It is beyond me. Obviously Sly tried to come up with an explanation on the spot to preserve canon, hence his answer "Forged". That's okay, it's forged. Why? We don't know. Rambo needed that. That said, maybe it wasn't even supposed to be read on-screen, I guess. |
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Post by Jay Rambo on Jul 21, 2024 12:45:26 GMT -5
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 21, 2024 13:17:07 GMT -5
That one really bugged me, as how can the prop department screw up something like this? And not be spotted and corrected during editing? It is beyond me. Obviously Sly tried to come up with an explanation on the spot to preserve canon, hence his answer "Forged". That's okay, it's forged. Why? We don't know. Rambo needed that. That said, maybe it wasn't even supposed to be read on-screen, I guess. Probably not. In the first scene the card appears on the parking deck, you cannot really see it. Only later in the scene with Gabrielle this is shown in close-up. For no reason really, we know it's Rambo. |
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 21, 2024 13:25:01 GMT -5
That one really bugged me, as how can the prop department screw up something like this? And not be spotted and corrected during editing? It is beyond me. Obviously Sly tried to come up with an explanation on the spot to preserve canon, hence his answer "Forged". That's okay, it's forged. Why? We don't know. Rambo needed that. That said, maybe it wasn't even supposed to be read on-screen, I guess. There is really no reason at all, why Rambo should be forging that thing. Sly just made it up on the spot, I am sure ...  |
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Post by Jay Rambo on Jul 21, 2024 18:37:22 GMT -5
I've fixed John's birthday, and added his parents.
Wow, I should have done this 5 years ago.
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 23, 2024 15:58:26 GMT -5
One more thing about the continuity:
Rambo could not have been drafted, the minimum age for that was 18. Men could enlist voluntarily with parental consent at the age of 17 though.
Rambo joined the army exactly one month after his 17th birthday, as Murdock recounts from his file in part II ("born 7-6-47 ... joined 8-6-64").
So this entirely rules out any theory that he might have been drafted. He was always a volunteer, and he joined the forces pretty much as early as anyhow possible.
Just as he told Gabrielle in LB.
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Post by Jay Rambo on Jul 23, 2024 17:37:42 GMT -5
Where does the draft thing come from?
By the way, your theory is wonderful: Reevis took the surname "Rambo" from Helga, and he was a Navajo.
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 23, 2024 17:50:32 GMT -5
Where does the draft thing come from? By the way, your theory is wonderful: Reevis took the surname "Rambo" from Helga, and he was a Navajo. I asked ChatGPT about it, after again listening to the Murdock monologue. It was one of those "... waaaait a second...!" moments. Sometimes this thing proves quite helpful, if you need some specific information fast, without having to dig down deep into the matter. |
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 23, 2024 17:56:00 GMT -5
The age requirements for enlistment in the U.S. military are defined by the **Military Selective Service Act** and regulations set by the Department of Defense. Specifically:
1. **Enlistment at Age 17**: Under the **Military Selective Service Act**, individuals can enlist at 17 with parental consent. This provision allows minors to join the military if they have written permission from a parent or guardian.
2. **Enlistment at Age 18**: Individuals can enlist without parental consent at age 18. This is the minimum age for voluntary enlistment in the armed forces.
These regulations were in place during the Vietnam War era and continue to apply today.
The minimum age for the draft during the Vietnam War was defined by the **Selective Service Act of 1948** and subsequent amendments. Specifically, the **Selective Service Act of 1967** established that men could be drafted starting at age 18. This law governed the draft process throughout the Vietnam War.
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Post by Jay Rambo on Jul 24, 2024 12:15:53 GMT -5
Yeah, there's no doubt here: Rambo wasn't drafted. He joined the Army at 17. That stays true and faithful to the character.
Rico:
If you can, if you want, just check what Rambo says to Gabriela about the timespan.
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Post by JudgeRico on Jul 24, 2024 12:48:59 GMT -5
Yeah, there's no doubt here: Rambo wasn't drafted. He joined the Army at 17. That stays true and faithful to the character. Rico: If you can, if you want, just check what Rambo says to Gabriela about the timespan. I am going to rewatch the RAMBO films pretty soon, will keep my eyes and ears open for all the open questions. |
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